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Title: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - May 1st-6th
Post by: Somers Kempe on June 08, 2010, 04:11:45 PM
Taking this discussion out of a SA thread, how many would be interested in a weeks sailing in Bermuda next spring? The 2010 regatta smoked breeze-wise all week, but usually we get a good mix of conditions in warm water and sunshine.  Racing is usually Sun, Mon, Tues - lay day Wed (beach time), then Thurs, Fri with a prizegiving on the Friday evening. We could do as many races as you wanted.

I have some pull with the Race Week committee, and would love to send some invites out to the Viper fleets... How many invites should I get ready? Take a look at the current event web site for photos, videos, etc... next years event will run basically along the same lines.

I am currently looking at logistics of shipping vipers from FL, and after the regatta ship it to NJ.  When I get some idea of costs, I'll update the thread.  From FL to BDA it will not be RO-RO, but from BDA to NJ it can be.  J105's used to do it a few years ago (and a few may do it in 2011).  I know some people and am sure if we get a group of boats there could be some deals cut on the costs.

PM me or post your thoughts.
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Somers Kempe on June 11, 2010, 03:36:46 PM
Ok - have the ocean freight rates.

From Fernandina Beach, FL to Bermuda for single stack Viper on trailer with rig stowed in the boat:
$1,479.60.  On return from Bermuda to NJ or from Bermuda back to FL it is the same rate.

A double stack trailer add $500 each leg.

So single boat FL-BDA-NJ = $2959.20
Double: $3959.20

Discuss whether this is do able or not.
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Dan Tucker on June 14, 2010, 12:06:08 PM
Too steep for me, but I'm a poor working sod...
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Matt Sole on June 14, 2010, 12:47:14 PM
That's the cost of a brand new set of sails.

Is there an option of containering the boats out there?

4 boats to a 40ft container works right? What would the FL-BDA-NJ cost of a container be?

Also a lot of boats have masts where the two halves are glued together. So that would likely increase the RORO cost.
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: David Furna on June 14, 2010, 12:49:35 PM
Too rich for my program......add in airfare, lodging, expenses.......that would be one expensive regatta.
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Tim Carter on June 14, 2010, 06:01:20 PM
Agree, Bermuda would be great but that would be near $6.5k I guess.  When it gets to more than 1 boat buck per day you wonder what kind of program you bought into...
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Lee Shuckerow on July 28, 2010, 11:23:45 AM
Its roughly a thousand miles to bermuda. There could be a cheaper way to get there, so lets keep looking.
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Jonathan Nye on July 28, 2010, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: Lee shuckerow on July 28, 2010, 11:23:45 AM
Its roughly a thousand miles to bermuda. There could be a cheaper way to get there, so lets keep looking.
Looking for cheap eh? Boats likely to be in Charleston already eh? Closest point on the US mainland to Bermuda is ... Charleston. Cruise in company the boats to Bermuda. What could go wrong?
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Somers Kempe on August 01, 2010, 08:45:17 AM
I am working on some $ per boat from the title sponsor to help with travel costs. Also should be able to hook up room rates at a local hotel.  Stay tuned. 
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Tim Carter on August 01, 2010, 01:58:58 PM
Looking for cheap eh? Boats likely to be in Charleston already eh? Closest point on the US mainland to Bermuda is ... Charleston. Cruise in company the boats to Bermuda. What could go wrong?
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Includes a crossing of the Triangle....  naw, no worries...  :)
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Drake Borer on August 01, 2010, 10:36:14 PM
I'm in!  Get a couple of support boats and just getting there would be an epic race!
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: David Furna on August 02, 2010, 08:12:25 AM
Beer, Bimini top, sw breeze at 20kts.......30 Vipers racing to Bermuda? I'm in
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Matt Sole on August 02, 2010, 11:15:39 AM
Charleston - Bermuda
775 miles due west. SW 15-20 should be able to do it under 60hrs..... So that's 3 cases of beer 6 sandwiches and a packet of crisps. I'm up for it.
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - May 1st-6th
Post by: Somers Kempe on August 23, 2010, 02:21:45 PM
The dates of this event is changed to May 1st-6th.
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - April 24th-29th
Post by: Justin Scott on September 06, 2010, 08:53:16 AM
Quote from: Matt Sole on August 02, 2010, 11:15:39 AM
Charleston - Bermuda
775 miles due west. SW 15-20 should be able to do it under 60hrs..... So that's 3 cases of beer 6 sandwiches and a packet of crisps. I'm up for it.

Matt?  Only 3 cases of beer to last 60 hours? For you!  Are you planning to sail single handed?
Title: Re: Bermuda International Invitational Race Week 2011 - May 1st-6th
Post by: Somers Kempe on September 13, 2010, 09:22:55 AM
We have a better handle on 40' container logistics following a discussion this weekend.  I will work on getting a quote for 3-4 boats in the container from FL-BDA-NJ and get back to everyone.

We are also thinking of having a sportboat fleet start - probably will include J80's.  If we get enough Vipers though they will get their own start line.