Hi all,
Please see attached a brief info sheet that we were handing around at Miami 2015 to give basic background on the North Americans to be held in Bermuda next November (2016). Email
[email protected] for more info, and we will provide more info shortly on our website http://viper640.bm
Thanks
Doug
Somers Kempe video from Bermuda
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=otmwcv5xLLA
Greetings race fans,
Please see attached the updated event announcement with dates and shipping costs for your planning purposes, as of October 2015.
Schedule is firm as follows:
Sun Nov 13 - Warm up event day 1
Mon Nov 14 - Warm up day 2
Tues Nov 15 - Lay day, check in , measurement
Weds Nov 16 - NAs day 1
Thurs Nov 17 - NAs day 2
Fri Nov 18 - NAs day 3
Sat Nov 19 NAs day 4, prize giving
Registration will be via Yachtscoring.com once the NOR is finalised.
Shipping costs are as follows, *without rebate*; these are sponsored by the shippers as it is:
* Single trailer: $3k round-trip
* Double-stack trailer: $4k round-trip, or $2k round-trip per boat
We additional can offer a $1,000 rebate for the first 30 boats that enter and pay their entry fee. So, for example, you can achieve a $1,500 round-trip cost if you double-stack (= ($4k - $1k) / 2 )
Read the sheet for the rest and hit us with questions:
Douglas De Couto (Regatta Chair) -
[email protected] +1 441 707 5537 mobile
Somer Kempe (Logistics) -
[email protected] +1 441 704 0102 mobile
As you can see from the attachment, the regatta planning is a fair way along, with a # of sponsors already lined up. The NOR is being finalized and we should have a yachtscoring site up and ready to start taking registrations very very soon. But with planning on the mind of many of you, we have quickly put together the attachment to help with initial logistics.
I will start to watch this thread in the forums to take any questions, or feel free to reach out to me at that email.
Some additional good news for those interested in travelling to Bermuda in November 2016.
http://bernews.com/2015/10/aa-to-increase-flights-to-bermuda-from-jfk/
Also gives an overview of travel options to the island.
Is there any interest on island for purchasing a delivered "used" boat after racing?
Dave
Hi David,
At this point, all I can say is there may be an interest locally. I will be forwarding people to this forum thread if I hear of anyone.
Somers
Been a great weekend of Vipering and hosting the Mambo Queens team in Bermuda this past weekend.
Stand by, we will be opening the 2016 North Americans registration later this week. NoR will be posted to Yacht Scoring, and first 30 boats to register will be in line for a shipping voucher.
Watch this space!
Happy Thanksgiving American friends!
FYI Registration goes live Black Friday at Noon EST.
yachtscoring.com is the place to go, and first 30 boats to register and pay registration fee will qualify for the Shipping discount. Read more on Yacht Scoring on Friday!
Buttons should be sending out a blast email to the class as well.
Enjoy your turkey!
Registration is open! http://www.yachtscoring.com/emenu.cfm?eID=1577
We're registered. Looking forward to seeing you in Bermuda. :-)
Now up to 29 entries. That was fast. Not all of them are coming from the mainland but still, not a ton of discounted shipping slots available for those who are late to the game. We also officially have more Larchmont teams traveling to Bermuda than I can get to travel to a regatta in Newport or Marblehead. Not quite sure what that means, but I think a lot of people are anxious for some blue water Viper sailing.
Almost a year out and we're at 30 with 7 boats being from Bermuda, leaving 7 opportunities for the discounted shipping.
Would anyone be willing to loan out a 2 part mast or know of someone willing to do so? Mine is glued together. I would be willing to do a temporary swap if they want to keep sailing while the boats are in Bermuda.
Eddy Parker
Granny's Hoe
Would anyone who has registered want to split a double trailer set-up for shipping to Bermuda?
Preferably in the NE / LIS area.
Colin
32 registered now.
Only 20 of the available shipping vouchers have been claimed. 10 left. If you don't pay when you register, you don't get a voucher. So pay when you sign up, and do it quick!
36 entries now...how many of them have claimed shipping vouchers? Seems to be an effective tool to dangle over people's heads to get folks to register early and often.
If only I had known that the key to getting a lot of people to sign up for an NAs was to put the event in an exotic, slightly expensive location and then offer a massive discount to early birds...can we get NASA to sponsor the 2020 NAs on Titan Lake, Saturn? Good news is that we can seed a new fleet. Bad news is that the Saturn guys don't travel well. May have to start signing up now since it'll take a few years to get there.
5 vouchers left.
What's the weather like at Titan Lake in November? Shorts and t-shirt weather??
You guys are good, I gotta say. I was really thinking I wasn't going to do this event next year. Next thing I know I see 38 boats on the scratch sheet, and I have Justin, Dan, Somers, and Peter putting the pressure on, and what do you know, looks like I'll be there. Really looking forward to this event..it's going to be pretty special!!
You're absolutely right Cole. This is going to be awesome! Can't wait.
The article was leaked to the media a few days ago.
http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20151202/SPORT03/151209944
Shaping up to be epic.
3 vouchers left as of 9:00AM EST today.
2 vouchers now. It's now 11:00am EST.
Am also looking into getting a firm $$ with respect to boats coming in with their rigs stuck together, and not in 2 pieces. Will spread the word (in forums, on regatta website in the Shipping FAQ) when I hear anything to report.
1 voucher left.
Congrats to Boomslang who was the 29th boat to register and pay who will be getting a shipping voucher.
11:50am EST and 1 voucher left!
40 boats fleet.
All the vouchers are taken. :)
I will be starting a waiting list from here on to account for boats dropping out (hopefully not!).
And stand by. We are still working on making this event even better value.
Should have some more news early next week.
Hi Dave,
Shipping FAQ in the Documents and Forms section of the Event Website on Yacht Scoring.
Take a read through, and let me know if you have further questions.
Good news - BISL, one of the shipping companies has produced a great guide to shiping through their terminal in Salem, NJ.
I have posted the document to the Docs section of website.
Also - the shipping companies (BISL & SISL) servicing ports in Salem, NJ and FL will keep the same rate if you have a one piece mast, and are not able to store the rig in two pieces within the boat (which is preferred method). Great news for a few folks who were looking at additional costs because their rigs were locked in one piece.
47 entries now. Wow.
48! Sailing over from NC
There is a faint but distinct aroma of "Fifty" in the air
Aroma of Fifty........The perfume specially commissioned by the Viper class Governors for Bermuda from our dear friend Pino Silvestre
Happy to announce that Oleander Cycles has come onboard as Cycle Livery of choice. Offering a very attractive daily rate of $17.
http://www.oleandercycles.bm
Here's hoping we get the 50th entry for Christmas!
Any update on housing?
Also, is this rate for pedal cycles or scooters?
Quote from: Peter Beardsley on December 23, 2015, 11:20:06 AM
Any update on housing?
Also, is this rate for pedal cycles or scooters?
This rate is for scooters.
Housing is still being worked on, reviewing some proposals. Nothing will be decided or announced before New Year though. Too many people on holiday.
This is going to be great. Ever since I sold my motorcycle, I've been looking for an excuse to get my helmet and boots out.
Now I have this mental image of my entire team riding scooters in close formation so that we can haul sails around...
This is going to be great. Freaking scooters man, oh boy. Last time I rode a scooter was back in my drinking days and rode one off a pier in a stupor. I got towed behind one at Key West Race Week back in the day in a cart drinking Zima.
I am much better now......
Bring your roller skates, Craig. While we're in close formation carrying our sails, my team will tow you behind us. For optimal visibility, we will of course have to attach a lighted sparkler to your helmet.
The more I read from Michelle, the more I think I need to meet her!
Anyone looking for crew? Does not look like Lucky Varmints are going en masse.
Unless your taking your sails to the beach, why do you need to take them on the scooter? They will be with your boat upon shipping.
Unless you want to raise some sails for some extra speed on the scooter.
I think we're covering all important sponsorships...Goslings and scooter rentals.
I can picture it now, the Viper gang rolling into town on scooters!
Happy New Year - looks like we have reached 50!
Happy New Year Shuck! On our way to 60 now. :)
Been busy working on accommodation for everyone, and should have something to announce probably next week.
Stay tuned with your fingers crossed.
Quote from: John Leyland on December 25, 2015, 10:03:54 AM
I can picture it now, the Viper gang rolling into town on scooters!
Here we come..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEswQ6HLLUo
Quote from: Tim Carter on January 07, 2016, 01:10:38 PM
Quote from: John Leyland on December 25, 2015, 10:03:54 AM
I can picture it now, the Viper gang rolling into town on scooters!
Here we come..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEswQ6HLLUo
Just like Bike Week in Daytona Beach! ;-)
Some good reviews of the racing area for the upcoming NA's from none other than Mr. Clean.
https://vimeo.com/151521223
Great news regarding event accommodation posted to the event web site today. Email also sent to all competitors - check your Junk Mail!
http://www.yachtscoring.com/emenu.cfm?eid=1577
Somers, just tried to book some rooms. Couldn't book more than one on line so called. I was told no one was available to book my rooms. I hope the pink sale is available tomorrow.
Peter, make sure you speak with Ms. Mills Feb 1st, explain what issues you had booking and that you called - she should be able to sort you out.
FYI: I just booked a room this morning with the "Pink" discount online. It appears the deal is through today...
Call The hotel Newstead Belmont Hills at 1 441 236 6068, ask for Mrs. Mills. You'll get the discounted rate, but I think today is the last day. It looks like a great place.
OK - big news everyone.
Because you are all amazing and the # of competitors continues to grow, one of our amazing sponsors - Bermuda Container Line (running the shipping line out of Port Elizabeth, NJ) has sweetened their shipping deal. If you are living in the NE area under a ton of snow right now, listen up.
Ship your Viper through Port Elizabeth NJ and book with:
BERMUDA AGENCIES LTD ONE GATEWAY CENTRE, SUITE 2408 NEWARK, NJ 07102 TEL: (973) 242-6890 FAX: (973) 242-6286 Email:
[email protected]New Rates:
For Roll on Roll Off service:
$1400 for single boat on trailer. ie $1400 per boat
$1600 for double trailer ie $800 per boat
$1800 for triple trailer ie $600 per boat
$1000 return all - inclusive for each trailer.
So for example 2 boats on a single double stack trailer would move to Bermuda for $1600 ($800 each boat) and $1000 for the same trailer back to the US ($500 each) so round trip for $1300 each.
This reduced rate plan is available only through the Port Elizabeth agent, if you plan to send your boat through any of the other ports you would pay their respective shipping agents the existing rates, as shown in the shipping document on the event website.
I can't believe it; we are almost paying you to come race in Bermuda...
Great Job Somers and thanks for all your information. The NC Viper Hoes are booked at the Belmont Hills Resort and are now looking at getting the boat there. We don't have a double stack trailer, what are the single trailer rates? $2400 R/T? Vs $1300 if we find a double stack? I've never shipped a boat so it will be a new adventure for sure.
Dave Furna
Hi Dave
Check the regatta site out:
http://www.yachtscoring.com/event_documents/1577/OceanFreightFAQ_02-02-2016.pdf
The above post is for shipping out of port Elizabeth NJ, and return to there.
You could ship out of FL to Bermuda for 1500 and after ship back to port Elizabeth for the 1000.
As seen in other news, the regatta is now the first Viper 640 International Championships - two for one!
Who will be crowned the best in the world??
Who will be crowned the best in North America??
Some flight deals to be had here:
http://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2016-04-25/flight-deal-of-the-day-us-to-bermuda-for-under-300
Some good news for those who were concerned about being able to do both HPDO and NAs - I am in contact with one of the shipping companies and it seems like a no brainer to be able to do both events - plenty of time in between to guarantee that your boat will be in BDA in time. Consequently, hopefully everyone between North Carolina and Maine (i.e., those for who FL shipping is not closer) in North America will show up to the 2016 HPDO and then drop your boat at one of the two NJ locations on your way out of town (or arrange to have a driver bring your boat from HPDO to NJ) - should guarantee good practice in a large fleet.
IN OTHER NEWS: one thing that the shipping company wants to know is the height, width and length of a Viper on a trailer. We might as well post this information in the thread since 50+ people are going to have the same question. I don't know the answer off the top of my head though - anyone have the specs?
That sounds inviting.....and good planning Peter, Thx.
Buttons have room at his mansion for all the southern Viper crews?
Hi All,
Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm working through the shipping stuff now. I measured my boat and trailer to be 8 ft wide X 6 ft tall (my trailer is a lowboy: others may be about a foot taller), and 25 ft long.
The dock in Port Elizabeth is closed on Sunday October 9th and Monday the 10th, but can take boats and trailers on the 11th for the October 14th boat to Bermuda. The next option quoted to me was the November 4th boat, which gets in to Bermuda on the 6th. I may end up taking this one--if this is the case, the earliest you can leave a boat at their dock is Monday October 31st...
I'm personally shipping my boat on to Fernandina Beach FL after Bermuda, and SISL wants me to wait until October to book the trip... Will let ya'll know how that goes..
I'm working through the customs/paper work stuff also....
Flights seem good right now too..we have a direct Boston-BDA for like $375 roundtrip
If there are still folks out there on the fence about attending Bermuda this November, here some aerial work of last years Keelboat regatta in Bermuda in November. If you look close enough, you might even see Justin Scott at a few mark roundings...
https://youtu.be/NnwAsZme6sE
Look at this video at about 8:40 and you'll see the difference between a sportboat and a traditional, full hull boat. Staggering. Nothing against big boats...but, boy, do they look sluggish relatively. Thanks for the link, Somers.
I'm going Old School, as an honorary convict.
I'm looking forward to it!
Who needs crew for Bermuda? I've been on a Viper once or twice.
Just a casual update for folks out there watching this thread.
We have firmed up plans with Goslings for the social side of things. Looking at a Opening reception at their place on the Tuesday night with rum tasting, etc. They will be offering tours of the facility earlier in the day (cough cough Mambo Kings) for those that want to see where the good stuff comes from.
Will also have the infamous washing machine out at the Class Dinner on Thursday evening being held at RBYC.
Cold D&S dock side each day too.
Prize giving will be at RHADC with the full range of products.
As always please contact us if you have any questions. Carry on.
Competitor social packages are NOW available to purchase online at Yacht Scoring. Go to the "Purchase tickets and other items" section of the site.
http://www.yachtscoring.com/emenu.cfm?eid=1577
We have also started a FB page where competitors can upload pictures of regatta prep, participation and parties.
https://www.facebook.com/2016Viper640InternationalChampionship/
How many social packages are included in the event registration?
Hi Craig,
No bracelets are included within the regatta fee.
Somers
I assume if there are any non-competitors/significant others coming along they will need to purchase as well?
You are correct John.
The bracelets give the wearer the ability to enjoy after racing social, light food and beverages at the Opening Reception at Goslings Wine Bar, and dinner and beverages at the Class dinner being held at the Royal Bermuda Yacht Club. Also light food and beverages at the Royal Hamilton Amateur Dinghy Club for the Prize Giving Saturday night.
Regatta Merchandise now available for purchase from Coral Reef Sailing Apparel! Until October 15th get 10% off your complete order!
See the Regatta Merchandise document for more important information.
http://www.yachtscoring.com/event_documents.cfm?eid=1577
Go to CSRA to place your order:
http://www.coralreefsailing.com/index.php/regattas/2016-viper-640-international-championship-regatta.html
To save competitors paying Bermuda Customs Duty, and shipping costs to Bermuda there will be no merchandise for sale at the regatta venue. So order your gear now for shipment to you before you come.
Tips from the Experts - Pre-regatta Boat Inspection – From Rondar Raceboats' Paul Young
Dear class member,
As part of the preparations you will be making for Bermuda, we have put together a short list of boat preparation items, that you should check and replace BEFORE you leave for the event, rather than risk having your sailing curtailed in November. There will not be the usual array of spare parts vendors out there that you may be use to at home. If you break something and careen into another competitor, you could cause them some serious damage, too; so for the good of everyone competing, please ensure that your boat is in proper shape to participate in this regatta.
Spars:
Halyards, are they suitable, and in good condition? If they are frayed at key points where they cleat or exit the spar under load, replace them. While checking halyards, please also check the sheaves and lubricate them. Also check the cleats, particularly the main halyard cleats, and the spinnaker halyard flip flop cleat on the back of the mast. If that is older than two years, just replace the whole fitting, as they can get weaker over time due to sun degradation. Regardless, this is a part where having a spare in your kit is a wise decision.
Check your spreaders and the bracket and ensure that the rivets are the correct and original type, and that they are properly fastened up. It is not uncommon for the heads to stretch a little. Remove the shrouds from the outer end of the spreader and ensure that there are no broken strands or badly crippled wires around the spreader end tip fitting. Check the lower and upper ends where they exit and enter the swaged terminals. If your shrouds are over 3 years old consider replacing them before they break. They will be fine as spares.
Check your boom, boom end strap, boom end fittings, and so on. Do the same with the spinnaker pole, and its tack line. Sometimes tack lines get chewed up and break. This is another good part for which to have a spare.
Hull:
Check all fittings and replace any worn out cleats, or dodgy looking bits of rope. If you have a Delran plate Mk II boat or a cassette type Mk III boat then check the solidity of the arrangement. If it is not good, then replace the cassettes or do something about it now. You will not be able to monopolize a hoist in Bermuda for hours on end while you try to glue in a new cassette, or similar.
Check for leaks into the hull, and fix them if necessary. Replace the hiking strap lines if they look "end of season." Check that you have all the class required safety lines, and that they are correctly fitted to pass inspection at the event. Check your shroud plate U bolts are solid, and spend time looking at your rudder gudgeon plate, and the two pintles fitted to the rudder. If either look even slightly worn, consider replacing them. Check the rudder itself for any stress cracking just below the waterline, and check the tiller and tiller extension joint, if there is any sign of wear, get it replaced. That universal connector is also another good spare to have at the ready.
Lastly pack some spare ring dings, shackles, and all those little parts that are easy to find back home but might be trickier in Bermuda.
I have a question of shipping insurance. Somers you probably have experience with this. My watercraft insurance doesn't cover the shipping. The shipping company insurance is $1000.
Anyone have any other options?
We have not dealt with the freight insurance, so I don't have a magic solution.
You should be able to shop around.
Somers
I have insurance with Boat US. The added a provision to cover Bermuda for $40. I just had to explain to them - and it took me a while - that I don't plan to sail the Viper to Bermuda. They also cover the boat while on the vessel back and forth.
Good information Peter.
Lee, you should call your insurance carrier Monday.
Thanks Peter. My insurance won't cover during freight so I'm calling other insurance agents.
correction..ocean freight insurance turns out to be extra. Total bill came to $118. I think it is still reasonable.
Hi Peter,
Are you shipping out of Port Elizabeth?
Thanks,
John
yes
All,
The Ocean Freight document will be updated in a moment, but for all outbound shipments from Bermuda please contact Dawnette Bean at:
BERMUDA FORWARDERS LTD. 2 MILL CREEK LANE, HM05, BERMUDA
TEL: 441-294-6240 FAX: 441-292-1859
[email protected]www. bermudaforwarders.com
The invasion has started - 211 & 117 are here.
Looks like a couple of Canadians leading the invasion with another coming next week.
Sorry John - you lost your string of 1st's!
Reminder all!
We will not have any regatta merchandise on sale at the regatta venue. So go online and order some now - save 10% when you order by Oct 15th - enter viper10 at checkout:
http://www.coralreefsailing.com
It's looking like my boat's going to be in Bermuda in short order--now I have another question for people... How does the return shipment work? I'm shipping my boat on to Fernandina Beach, FL and I would like to find a uship person to drive it from there to Sarasota. I assume I need to find some kind of freight forwarder to make this happen for me remotely... Has anyone started working through this?
Thanks in advance, see ya'll in a month or so,
Cole
Hi all,
I tried posting this flyer on the forums but having difficulty.
Deb and I put together some boat prep specials for Bermuda. If you are not making it to Bermuda, feel free to take advantage of the specials listed below. email or call in your order to have shipped to you so you can either pack your gear into your boat for shipping or pack into your suitcase to bring with ya.
If you are not making it to Bermuda, plan on attending the 2017 Viper North American Championship the last week of October 2017 in Fort Walton Beach, FL https://www.facebook.com/Viper640NorthAmericanChampionships/
Gulf Performance Sailing
Viper Bermuda Prep Specials
Valid October 1-17, 2016
To order, please call 850-797-2933 or email
[email protected] Main Halyard, 4mm, Vectran Core-Polyester Cover
Black with yellow fleck, 717kg Break load
67 feet, whipped each end, (reg. $60.50) SALE: $47.85
Spin Halyard, 6mm, 8plait polyester, the stuff that zings
White, with black and red fleck, 891kg Break Load
88 feet, whipped each end, (reg. $50.24) SALE: $38.00
Jib Halyard, 5mm, Twisted Polyester Core-Polyester Cover
White with black and red fleck, 702kg Break Load
48 feet, whipped each end, (reg $31.04) SALE: $20.75
Tack Line, 5mm Vectran, 12strand, no cover
Natural Color, 2405kg Break Load
17 feet, whipped each end, (reg. $25.00) SALE: $16.00
Jib Sheet, 8mm, Excel Fusion, Dyneema SK78 core, blended
Dyneema & polypropylene cover, grey in color, 1411kg Break Load
Cut to order, (reg. $2.14 foot) SALE: $1.82 foot
Tow Line, 8mm, Polypropylene tight weave, yellow in color
66 feet, whipped each end, (reg. $32.45) SALE: $23.50
Marlow Gemini, 9mm, Dual/Twin Dyneema Core, blended
Dyneema & polypropylene cover, orange color, 1434kg Break Load
Limited quantity available (reg. $3.09 foot) SALE: $2.45 foot
OTHER SPECIALS
Eelsnot Speed Coating, Eelsnot Boat Therapy is an eco-friendly hydrophobic compound that shields surfaces from direct contact with water. Eelsnot Boat Therapy retards marine growth on hulls at the molecular level. You will go faster
20oz tub, can cover Viper bottom 3x, (reg. $44.99) SALE: $32.75
Rooster Sailing Gloves, ¾ finger, and full finger,
3xs,2xs,xs,s,m,l,xl,2xl (reg. $28.89) SALE: $23.69
Zhik Deckbeater Shorts (reg. $115.00) SALE: $92.00
Zhik Deckbeater Pants (reg. $169.00) SALE: $135.00
XS,S,M,L,XL,2XL limited quantities available
15% off Harken Blocks and Cleats, 10% off Ronstan Spin Halyard Swivel Cleat (reg. $56.21)
CALL IN ORDER TO 850-797-2933 or email to
[email protected]
Sales Flyer Attached...
Craig Wilusz of Gulf Performance Sailing is offering discounted line packages for Bermuda bound Vipers...and others I would assume. Download this attachment and contact Craig with your order.
Quote from: Lee Shuckerow on October 03, 2016, 09:14:56 AM
Thanks Peter. My insurance won't cover during freight so I'm calling other insurance agents.
My insurance is thru Arthur J Gallagher and after answering a lot of questions they were able to add the ocean freight for $CDN250 to my policy.
Gowrie wont cover roll on/roll off shipping. Checking on alternatives
I have Gowrie Group Insurance. I added on sailing in Bermuda for $95 for the year but as others have stated it does not cover shipping. I just got a quote today for shipping insurance from Voigt Maritime for $398 one way for a stated value of $30,000 (2015 boat) out of Salem NJ. There has to be a better way. I friend of mine who is a harbor pilot said you really need insurance because in some extreme situations, you could be liable for significantly more than the value of your boat. However, spending nearly $800 for 6 days of insurance is a little hard to take. Any ideas?
All - Social packages have been updated. You now get 1 ticket per boat included in your registration, and the price is now $60 a ticket each additional ticket. Best deal on the island.
There is also a trailering fee of $100 per boat that will cover the concierge trailering to and from the docks and clubs while your boat is in Bermuda.
Great....now that I've bought 3 @$80
Got an extra ticket to give away! Who wants it?
Are those of us who bought tickets @ $80 each going to get rebated?
Yes, those that bought at 80 will get rebates.
Quote from: Peter Broszkowski on October 03, 2016, 11:20:42 AM
correction..ocean freight insurance turns out to be extra. Total bill came to $118. I think it is still reasonable.
So just to be clear......One off event insurance in Bermuda + Freight Insurance with Boat US costs only $118?
Even though I am insured with Gowrie for my US sailing.....it would be cheaper to buy that event insurance from Boat US than extend my Gowrie insurance.
Peter...do you have a contact number we can call?
Great insurance tip from Peter.
I called Boat US. They totally get it. You have to buy a one year plan ....and that is fine....for around $250 (final quote pending) for sailing in US and Bermuda waters (not to and from Bermuda) + coverage during freight both ways.
Im still checking fine print but it looks good.
I am waiting for a quote from Gowrie
Thanks Justin,
Gowrie hasn't been very helpful. Interested to hear what BoatUS does for you.
Dave
Justin
My annual premium for the USA waters is abt $400. For Bermuda they charge extra $38 for every two-week period (or part of it) the boat stays there. They initially included the cargo freight in that rate. Then they tried to charge me $250 extra, but then when I complained they waived that fee. So everything is negotiable it seems.
We dropped our Viper #230 off at the Salem, NJ Terminal today. This is in small town NJ. I was very worried about a massive Longshoreman terminal with everyone with their hand out for $20 to do anything and then getting the boat cleaned out as soon as I left. Salem is not that way. Small time operation. Everything in this terminal goes to Bermuda. Joe, the forklift operator told me that they will forklift the trailer onto a steel pallet like the one that was next to my boat with a truck on it, and then it would be craned on using the pallet and stored below deck. It is a bit unnerving leaving your boat anywhere with just a handshake and a piece of paper but Salem left me with a good feeling....
This shipping insurance issue has been quite a bit of a pain. The high cost comes from not being in a container or being (Roll on / Roll off). The lowest quote I have come with is .65 per $100. So a $25000 value would be $162.50 one way and I am going with this. Insurance companies that have quoted lower numbers or added on the coverage to existing policies at fairly low numbers, I do not believe totally understand what they are signing up for. I have tried hard through a couple avenues and had no luck with this. I am very disappointed that Gowrie, the US Sailing recommended insurance can not help us. I plan on moving on next year. My point of contact for the insurance I am getting is Dan Medeiros at Masterpiece International 401-851-7916. He has done our customs work also. All good. Shipping out of Salem with Jackie Berberabe at Voight Maritime 212-635-9580. Nothing but the best to say about her also...
Glad to hear the glowing report.
FYI - Bermuda is still here, following hurricane Nicole and we are cleaning up. All the visiting Vipers came through ok. A lot of homes without power, mine one of them, so if you email me about the regatta - be patient for a reply.
Cheers!
Somers, hope you get power back soon. We were out for a week after Sandy. It is a pain. I dropped my boat in New Jersey this AM. And I got a email from Zina at BCL about the procedure for returning shipping of the boat. But, I'm not sure what to say regarding when I will be shipping the boat back. Can you advise? Thanks, Peter
Hi Peter,
Power is back on thankfully. Last year we were out for 2 weeks which was getting real tedious.
I am having a meeting Nov 18th (tomorrow) with Daunette Bean at Bermuda Forwarders who will be handling bookings for the return trips. They are handling all the import clearance work in Bermuda, so it is a natural fit to have them handle the outgoing since they will have all the Customs paperwork already from the import side of things. In the Freight Shipping document on the website she is listed as the person to contact for outbound shipping.
http://www.yachtscoring.com/event_documents/1577/OceanFreightFAQ_03-10-2016.pdf
Shipping a single boat/trailer from BDA to USA you have 3 options. Here is an overview:
1) Cheapest at $1000 is from BDA to Port Elizabeth, NJ. Runs weekly service.
2) $1500 per boat from BDA to Salem, NJ. Weekly service, and small operation very friendly on the NJ side.
3) $1500 per boat from BDA to Fernandina Beach, FL. Runs almost every two weeks. Important for those that wish to send their Vipers south for the winter.
I will be contacting owners individually real soon regarding the $1000 discount shipping vouchers going towards their return shipping fees.
Masterpiece International will be the USA side importer of your vessels - and you should have all dealt with Dan there when you booked/sent your boat outbound. He is important because he will collect all the fees, and he will register your boat upon export so you don't pay duty on it when you re-import it into the USA.
All the logistics of getting your boat to the docks in BDA are covered by the event trailering fee. Concierge service - you just need to tell me what voyage/date of departure your boat will be leaving on and we will get it to the docks in time.
As mentioned earlier - have a meeting with Daunette tomorrow, to "tee" her up and to try to make this as smooth as possible. Will advise on that later.
Any further questions let me know.
Glad you have ice cubes for your rum
FYI, our calls to BoatUS on the insurance front indicate that they specifically do NOT cover freight and RoRo, so for anyone going that route, just make sure you read and understand what your policy covers. We are buying the insurance from the shipping company, which is at the rate that Mark quoted. It's all a little bit of an adventure but the shipping company people seem good, Somers is working hard to provide fast and diligent answers and make the logistics as painless as possible, and it sounds like it will be a fantastic event. Still would love to see / hear how the Aussies are doing the container loading and unloading in case we all have to deal with it for a World Championship Down Under in 2020 or 2022.
Peter I don't know why they told you this . Because this is what they sent me. See attached.
Hello Viper Competitors,
A very important update regarding booking your Viper from Bermuda to USA following the International Championships this November.
The event is now collecting all the required information from all competitors and sorting and then forwarding it onto Bermuda Forwarders who will make the bookings with the required agents/shipping lines. Masterpiece International will act as your USA Customs Broker and collect payments. The billing will automatically reflect the return shipping voucher for those that have them.
So, I need everyone shipping a boat back to the USA to fill in the attached PDF and send it back to me –
[email protected]. If you do not do this prior to arriving in Bermuda, I will either hunt you down at registration, or just keep your boat (just kidding).
All the information regarding shipping schedules are included in the PDF, but if you have any questions please email them to me.
If you wish to leave your boat in Bermuda with mast up storage at the RHADC following the event and come back and take part in weekend racing thoughout the winter (Jan, Feb) then please let me know of your interest.
Cheers,
Somers
If anyone is struggling with the insurance side of things then please contact Bart Lewis at BFM here in Bermuda. His email is
[email protected] Their website is www.bfm.bm and they are located right next to the RBYC in town.
He should be able to help with your insurance needs - let him know you are a visitor for the Viper International Championships.
Cheers,
Somers
Viper congestion in Newark..
Quote from: Peter Broszkowski on October 19, 2016, 03:37:05 PM
Viper congestion in Newark..
A little bit like this from earlier today?
Yeah - the receiving guy asked me - what is your name? Peter?. Were you here already earlier today.?
For those of you sending your boats to Bermuda and wanting/planning on sending them on down to Sarasota.....
I confirmed a shipping deal today for all those that are planning on sending your boats directly from Bermuda to Sarasota in December, in time for the first winter series event on Dec 17/18th.
The one-way delivery between Fernandina Beach and Sarasota will be $250 each boat from the port to my office (or the Sailing Squadron). The boats will be coming off of Voyage 1074 (arriving the 10th of December) if you want them to make it to the Winter Series. I will handle all the transport logistics (based on your boat being cleared by customs) and pay the driver as each boat is delivered, owners can just send me a check or hand me cash in December.
Please email me (
[email protected]) if you want to be in on this deal, the shipper I am working with is Chris Gonzales, who has moved many of the classes boats in the past and dropped one NE boat off at my office today.
FYI, I know a lot of people who are available to crew in Bermuda (who are located in the US), some on short notice. If anyone has lost someone due to a last minute conflict, please let me know.
Here is the list of boat locations between the two clubs in Bermuda, Royal Bermuda Yacht Club and Royal Hamilton Amateur Dinghy Club. The allocation of boats to the different clubs has been done with many factors considered, but the main factor has been related to storage and space requirements. We are not able to change this list as the logistical requirements do not allow this. Thank you for your understanding, we look forward to seeing you all in Bermuda.
39 Cole Constantineau RHADC
55 Brian Johansen RHADC
73 Local RBYC
116 Rondar Race Boats (40' Container) RBYC
117 Ron Shute (w/CAN211) RHADC
118 Tim Carter RHADC
118 Rondar Race Boats (40' Container) RBYC
125 Local RBYC
155 Colin Santangelo RBYC
156 Local RBYC
159 George Peter Bauer RHADC
162 Robert J. Matthews RBYC
163 Ted Ferrarone RHADC
177 Gabe Jostrom RBYC
179 Byron LaMotte RBYC
183 Dan Tucker RBYC
191 John Leyland RHADC
193 Piotr Broszkowski RHADC
202 Michelle Lee RHADC
207 Fletcher Boland RBYC
208 Dave Nickerson RBYC
211 Steve Chapman (w/CAN117) RHADC
213 Warren Costikyan RBYC
215 Rondar Race Boats (40' Container) RBYC
216 Rondar Race Boats (40' Container) RBYC
218 Rondar Race Boats (40' Container) RBYC
220 Steve Taylor (w/ USA239) RHADC
230 Mark M Wheeler RHADC
232 Local RBYC
233 Local RBYC
235 Brad Boston, Lee Schuckerow RBYC
237 Justin Scott RBYC
239 Martin Casey (w/ AUS220) RHADC
240 Local RBYC
244 Travis Yates RBYC
246 Craig Wilusz RHADC
247 Geoffrey Fargo RHADC
253 Zeke Horowitz RHADC
255 Eddy Parker CPA GCMA RBYC
259 Rondar Race Boats (40' Container) RBYC
260 Rondar Race Boats (40' Container) RBYC
262 Somers Kempe (40' Container) RBYC
269 Peter Beardsley & Jay Rhame RHADC
Quote from: Peter Beardsley on October 18, 2016, 05:23:01 PM
Still would love to see / hear how the Aussies are doing the container loading and unloading in case we all have to deal with it for a World Championship Down Under in 2020 or 2022.
I think Rod & the Perth lads took video when loading containers in Garda last year?
Mr. Young has about 200 Vipers/50 containers worth of experience with this... We can provide detailed instructions as needed. The main thing is to have a couple of our canting racks for the trailers, which we use to ship the boats in the first place.
I've unpacked enough to know that it's not rocket science, though it will be a bit unnerving to load & unload the upper boats for those who haven't done it before.
Travis and I have our canting rack.......we're locked and loaded.....where are we going next?
Less than a week and Team Jackpot will be relaxing in Bermuda!! Can't wait to sail a Viper there in hopefully perfect conditions..
See you all there Friday night.
Brad Boston
Jackpot 235
We're discussing daily logistics for going back and forth to the boat each day and came up with an unasked question. With ~30 boats sailing out of RHADC and pretty much everyone arriving by scooter, taxi, or walking, has there been any arrangements made for a secure place for competitors to store their gear while we are on the water? Normally, everything would just get left inside a locked car, but since none of us will have cars in Bermuda, we are going to need somewhere to leave a bag with a change of clothes, wallets, phones, etc.
Somers, maybe you have an answer for this.
Hi Tom,
Your concerns were answered in an email to competitors this evening. I have pasted below if you have not received it.
Dear Competitors,
A few updates in this email, some you have seen before and some your haven't. Please read to the end.
Trailering/Outbound Shipping
Reminder – please submit the Outbound shipping form back to Somers so we can manage bookings of your Viper back to the USA. We are still missing a few people, and by filling in and returning to me now, you will save time at registration. Ensure you log on to Yacht Scoring and pay for the trailering fee, otherwise your boat will not go anywhere. If you have sent in a form and did not receive a reply from me, please email me again.
Social Packages
We have some nice things lined up on the Social side including a great cocktail reception and dinner on the Thursday night at RBYC sponsored by Goslings and Gubinelli. Each boat entry gets one Social package ticket free, additional packages are $60 each. Log on to Yacht Scoring to complete your purchase.
Here is the tentative schedule for competitors to help you plan your week. Please note that for race times, the NoR/SI's and any Amendments take precedent over this schedule:
Date Time Item Location
Fri, Nov 11th
1000 Crane Service RHADC Tennis Courts
Sat, Nov 12th
1000 Boat Park and Club Bar Open RHADC / RBYC
1400-1700 Early Registration RBYC
1400-1700 Crane Service Open Barrs Bay Park
1600 Race Management Team Meeting RBYC
1600 Measurement TC Meeting RBYC
Sun, Nov 13th
0930 Pre-regatta Skipper Briefing RHADC - Upper Terrace
930-1130 Crane Service Open Barrs Bay Park
1155 Racing - 1st Warning RHADC - Dockside Patio
1600-2000 Post Racing Debrief RHADC - Upper Terrace
Mon, Nov 14th 1100-1600 Pre-regatta Racing Great Sound
1600-1700 Crane Service Open Barrs Bay Park
1600-2000 Post Racing Debrief RHADC - Upper Terrace
* Prize Giving at Class Dinner Thursday Night
Tues, Nov 15th 1000-1200 Artemis Base Tour (14ppl) Morgans Point
1200-1700 Crane Service Open Barrs Bay Park
1000-1600 Registration RBYC
1900-2100 Opening Reception Goslings Wine Bar
Wed, Nov 16th
0900 Competitor Briefing RBYC Terrace
0900-1030 Crane Service Open Barrs Bay Park
1155 Racing - 1st Warning Great Sound
Thurs, Nov 17th 1055 Racing resumes Great Sound
1830-2000 Cocktail Reception & Class Dinner RBYC
Fri, Nov 18th 1055 Racing resumes Great Sound
1800 Oracle Presentation & Q/A RBYC
Sat, Nov 19th
1055 Racing resumes Great Sound
* No racing to start after 1330 Great Sound
1430-1700 Crane Service Open Barrs Bay
1900 Reception and Prize Giving RHADC Dining Room
Goslings Facility Tours
Goslings Black Seal® Rum has become synonymous with Bermuda. It is an essential ingredient in Bermuda fish chowder, adds the island flavor to the Bermuda Rum Swizzle, and is the tempest in Bermuda's favorite cocktail the Dark 'n Stormy®. There will be sign up sheets at competitor check-in on Saturday Nov 12th for behind the scenes facility tours being held on Tuesday 15th Nov, 10am, 11am, and 1pm at their Dundonald Street address.
AC Base Tours
We have been awaiting final replies from the three resident AC teams for some time now regarding having base tours conducted for visiting Viper sailors. Unfortunately because the ACWS is running concurrently in Japan, Team Soft Bank Japan will not be able to run a tour at all due to their small team size and no available personnel. Oracle Team USA has recently changed their policy regarding tours and will not be able to offer an on site tour, but we have instead organized a speaker/presentation on the Friday night at RBYC with a Q/A after. All are invited to this presentation, the bar and food service at the club will be open before and after the event.
This brings us to Artemis Racing, who have graciously offered a limited tour given their teams commitments in Japan. There will be a strict no photography policy, and visitors will have to sign non-disclosure agreements before entering the premises.
Judging from feedback, this activity is in high demand and short in supply, so the 14 available tickets will go up for raffle. Competitors who are interested in attending can purchase a raffle on the Yacht Scoring site (or as many raffle tickets as they like to increase their chances!) and 14 names will be randomly drawn on Monday 14th Nov. In the event a competitor name is drawn more than once, the competitor will decide who they take with them. Part proceeds will go to the Andrew Simpson Sailing Foundation (ASSF). The tour takes place at the team base on Morgan's Point at 10am Tuesday Nov 15th and competitors will be responsible to get themselves there - we can provide directions.
Security
There has been a question raised of what to do with your belongings at each club while you go sailing. Keep in mind that generally the clubs are safe places and you shouldn't have any trouble with your belongings during the day. At the RBYC the boats will be sailing from inside the marina, and leaving bags on the floating docks out of the way should be fine. Leaving items in locked trailer boxes in the adjacent Barrs Bay Park will also be ok. At the RHADC the boat yard (previously known as the tennis courts) has a lock on the gate and can be secured.
Crew Names
Please take the time to enter in your crew details into the Yacht Scoring web site by logging in and going to "My Crew List" and then clicking the button "Add Crew". If your crew are not listed at the link below, you need to do this.
http://www.yachtscoring.com/crew_list_report.cfm?eid=1577
Measurement
Just a reminder – in order to complete registration and race on Wednesday, all Vipers need to be inspected and have their inspection form signed by a Technical Committee member. Find Bob Matthews, Rod Beurteaux or Dave Nickerson (usually at RBYC) or Nigel Brownett (usually at RHADC) and set up a time with them. They plan to do as may boats as possible starting late Saturday afternoon, Sunday/Monday (when not sailing) and Tuesday. Please get inspected as early as possible - and be prepared – it's their vacation time too.
The inspection form is attached so you know what will be reviewed. Please have your boat ready, out of the water, and all equipment present. Any sails you might want to race with (up to 2 sets) must be present at inspection and have Viper Class registration stickers that match the hull number (except for charter boats). If you need to buy any registration stickers, head to PayPal now. http://www.viper640.org/technical/rules/sail-button-purchase-and-how-to-register-sails/ . Include a note that you'll pick up the stickers in Bermuda. Dave and Bob will have plenty of registration stickers in Bermuda, but it's difficult to deal with payment in Bermuda.
http://www.yachtscoring.com/emenu.cfm?eid=1577
If you have any questions please get in touch with me.
Sorry - please note that the "Crane Service" on Sat Nov 12th at RHADC is to have the double stack trailers unstacked in the boat yard.
Otherwise, there is a 24/7 crane on the dock at RHADC for use by single trailer Viper owners. As per the Warm Up regatta NoR, people are free to wet sail or dry sail that event.
At RBYC, the boats will be launching out of a public park (Barrs Bay Park) with the noted operating crane times.
In water marina berthing will be available all week at both clubs.
All packed up and ready to go! This is what we are playing for next week..
Travel safe and see you there!
Brad Boston
Jackpot 235
Why are there so few teams in the corinthian list? It seems like most of the teams are corinthian.
Because most teams have not entered in their correct or unexpired ISAF sailor Id, so the system doesn't recognize them as Corinthian. If they enter it them in properly before the regatta starts then they will be listed as Corinthian.
Just for fun, I went thru the process and it was very easy, from creating a World Sailing account, to filling out the web form for my status.
I would encourage teams to do this, because it looks good for our class to show how much corinthian participation we get.
Cheers! Good luck this week to everyone.
Some good coverage online at the FB page today.
https://www.facebook.com/2016Viper640InternationalChampionship/
At airport, heading home, had a ball, made some new friends. See you all at Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida, last week of October next year for NA's
Great time last week, my old self is feeling it today. As Craig said, met a bunch of new people and they were all a lot of fun. I'll be eating beans and rice for the next year to pay for the trip, but it was worth it.
All, what I have received from BCL (Port Elizabeth) with regards to free time and ultimately instructions on picking up the boat.
Free Time is 5 days and the costs are listed in photo attachments.
Based on weight or measurement – with minimum as noted attached.
However an appointment is required to pick up the boats and the appointment has to be made the day before (before noon). I suggest the boat owners call Kevin Grady 908-413-4159 or Chris Dubina 908-296-7823 Wednesday next week for an update on the ship's arrival and when the boats might be available. Pick up based on boats are U.S. Customs cleared.
For Monday pick up the boat owners have to call Kevin or Chris on Friday (Nov 25) before noon to make a pick up appointment for Monday (Nov 28). Again based on boats are U.S. Customs cleared.
There will be no pier charges due at time of pick up.
Quote from: Craig Wilusz on November 20, 2016, 12:50:11 PM
At airport, heading home, had a ball, made some new friends. See you all at Fort Walton Yacht Club, Florida, last week of October next year for NA's
Somers, Doug, everyone from Bermuda.......Great time. Great event. Rest of the team send their thanks as well. We all had a blast.....even despite the scooter rash.
Congrats to Zeke and his band of brothers. It was a classy win.
Congrats to Jeff, Geoff and Spencer for a well earned win in the Corinthians (I can report that this was not due to avoiding the bar and going to bed early each night)
But most of all congratulations to the forty boats (out of forty one) who all scored at least two double digit finishes and congratulations to the thirty seven boats who all had at least one race finish in the top half of the fleet. Its an astonishing statistic which says a lot for the close racing in the Viper class....and we wont be satisfied until we have helped four more boats get a top half result.
Craig......Your and Deborah's enthusiasm for the class is infectious. You bet the Mambo Kings will be at Fort Walton. It sounds like a lovely spot.
Scooter Rash? Hopefully a quick shot of Penicillin can clear that up for you Justin!