there need to be a separate section just for videos!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaHi8G_e9Bw
28 mile race from marina del rey around palos verdes to cabrliio beach...aka hurricane gulch
unfortunatly the wind didn't pick up til about 5 miles left in the race so we couldn't stretch our legs til the end.
How timely, I just put together something from our Wed night PHRF race. My first attempt at editing a video and the camera placement isn't perfect but it'll get better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q1HIEj5lt4
Comments welcome on all aspects including boat handling, sail trim etc.
Luke.
Nice Vid Luke.... my only comment is that you seem too far aft in the boat... try to push the bow down a bit more.
I am a 6' 220# clyde... usually I straddle or am in front of the main bridle. Downhill, low soak mode, bow person is to leward on deck in front of shrouds, kite trimmer just aft of weather shrouds with skipper beside..
Quote from: Tim Carter on July 22, 2011, 05:17:50 PM
Nice Vid Luke.... my only comment is that you seem too far aft in the boat... try to push the bow down a bit more.
Once I looked at the video I started thinking the same thing. Kinda looks like we're pushing the stern in too deep. Gotta love filming everything, eventually you'll learn something!
Luke.
on your hoists, the middle man should do either the tack or the halyard, the front guy the other (middle does halyard on our boat). MUCH easier. The chute in binding up in your sock (when the middle guy pulls the sock aft) because only the halyard is going up, having the tack coming out at that point would actually help.
For your takedown, the chute always comes in on the port side of the boat, so have the chute on that side before pulling the cord. IE pull it around to weather FIRST, then douse and it'll fall on deck instead of in the water and clumping up on the forestay. Also, there's another block on the floor of the boat for the belly button cord forward of the main bridal, the middle guy should pull up from there, not forward from the block at the aft end of the sock.
small details but they should make things a lot easier. And I need to get our gopro mounted under the boom so we can do this for our boat, you can see a lot of small details and we need a lot of help with tacks and gybes (rolling especially) with my 65y/o dad... lol
Quote from: Ben Jacobsen on July 24, 2011, 10:10:15 AM
on your hoists, the middle man should do either the tack or the halyard, the front guy the other (middle does halyard on our boat). MUCH easier. The chute in binding up in your sock (when the middle guy pulls the sock aft) because only the halyard is going up, having the tack coming out at that point would actually help.
Doh! That's one of those "why didn't I think of that??" things. Thanks, we'll make that change.
Luke.
In the immortal words of Alan "Clean" Bloch and Ben Moon:-
"What's our speed?"
"17 knots"
"17 knots and we cant catch the Viper"
"Whats our speed?"
"22 knots"
"22 knots! Check this shit out"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPwvCUas_Kk
The rest, as they say, is history.
http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Newsletter/Sailing-Videos/Challenge-Cup-Promo-2012.htm
everyone PM mauri and ask him what's up with the 80's porn music
here's last night's race at 8x speed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIPjLAR7GSU
I slowed down most of our tacks/gybes and the set and douse. It wouldn't let me split the video anymore to get the last few tacks. I'll tell you what, the gopro is AWESOME for learning what we're doing wrong. You think you're hiking until you watch yourself in the video... I want to try some better places for the camera, but this certainly works.
gopro has a new roll bar mount that works perfectly on the tiller (and the GNAV is the same round stock): http://gopro.com/camera-mounts/roll-bar-mount/
I haven't dared to try it yet until I get the new float attachment, but the roll bar mount also fits the sprit!
jason
Quote from: Jason Hyerstay on August 24, 2011, 11:03:59 AM
I haven't dared to try it yet until I get the new float attachment, but the roll bar mount also fits the sprit!
jason
float attachment?
and no way?! I was thinking about doing something on the sprit after watching a TP52 video with one under theirs, but the in/out factor with ours makes it tough... Plus, do you point it into the boat or out? Something to try for sure though. :)
They call it the Floaty Backdoor:
http://gopro.com/camera-accessories/floaty-backdoor/
whoa, cool! I hadn't seen that one yet. My issue would be finding it if it fell off while sailing though? I've tied mine on with string before when it's not in a good spot. I've almost lost parts over at the dock though (the second bolt for the roll bar part that's loose, and a nut from the normal connectors) so I've learned to do all attaching on land before we launch.
MOB and recovery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr6kM1SUA4M
and here's the DW run (we missed the layline after the gybe and were super tight):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsBHPRJdC9U
If dad wanted to drive the boat that badly, maybe he just could have asked nicely???? :-)
That's ok. we had three swimmers last weekend in Long Beach, two while racing and one during a demo :P
Quote from: Jim Sears on September 07, 2011, 01:17:02 AM
If dad wanted to drive the boat that badly, maybe he just could have asked nicely???? :-)
(http://newschoolofphotography.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)
he actually DOES split driving time with me. I start and do the first upwind leg, then we switch at the weather mark...
Quote from: Jim Sears on September 07, 2011, 01:17:02 AM
If dad wanted to drive the boat that badly, maybe he just could have asked nicely???? :-)
now that's funny! Pretty diabolical move to get some helm time ........,?
http://youtu.be/UfBVfDXzVbY
Our local Wednesday Night Sailing PHRF series in Bermuda. Downwind start heading out through Two Rock into the Great Sound. Breeze 15-20 knots. Great time mixing it up with the big boats of the fleet on the way out. Was first to the bottom mark and held our time to the finish.
SK,
Great video, keep them coming.
We need more Viper action on the net.
If possible, position the camera a little higher.
Also, if you name your videos with the word "Viper" they will be easy to find.
In case you didn't catch it on YouTube or the SA forum, here's the video highlights from Charleston Race Week 2012...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBWzRT7Xj-w
H
Quick edit of a 14-15 knot run on the weekend:
http://youtu.be/hK_nrBE8O_4
Quote from: Luke Porter on May 22, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
Quick edit of a 14-15 knot run on the weekend:
http://youtu.be/hK_nrBE8O_4
Luke, I'm glad you guys are having a blast out in Halifax!
Friendly suggestion: trim the mainsail... you'll see the Viper go even faster! :-)
Quote from: Harvey Barnes on May 23, 2012, 02:38:19 PM
Friendly suggestion: trim the mainsail... you'll see the Viper go even faster! :-)
I knew someone was going to spot that! We were actually trying to reach up a little at the time so I have an excuse ....
Just don't forget that the mainsail leech is your backstay i.e.anti-inversion control. It keeps the mast in the boat. Rules of thumb- keep some gnav on & don't ease st beyond the spin turning block.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CslmAyTCydM&feature=youtu.be
some Wed night beer can racing in Anacortes Washington
Quote from: Garrett Johns on May 25, 2012, 12:18:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CslmAyTCydM&feature=youtu.be
some Wed night beer can racing in Anacortes Washington
Keel's fine. Good to check now and then!
Keel's fine. Good to check now and then!
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Smart ass :) . I knew I should have cut that part out. That is actually our "stall" technique when we are haulin ass so fast we will get back to the club before the bar even opens!...thats our story and we are stickin to it!
Nice vid Garrett... I got to me me one of those headmounts :)
Footage from Double Damned 12' It was supposed to blow....but....it didn't :(
http://youtu.be/FgcpjhF1zSs
Quote from: Scott Ellis on August 19, 2012, 11:19:25 AM
Footage from Double Damned 12' It was supposed to blow....but....it didn't :(
http://youtu.be/FgcpjhF1zSs
Pretty well put together video.
Recent short videos of sailing in Bermuda on a Wednesday Night.
The view of the fleet:
http://youtu.be/bTfI7tpuV0c
And the Tactitian's View of the same race.
http://youtu.be/f1BPkK-Ao5g
Looks like it got lonely for you pretty quickly. But I guess that 40 footer kept you company. Go Vipers!
Just bought my first gopro and looking for advice on fixed mounting points. See some nice videos here that look like they were filmed from way aft and up high behind the boat - what is the camera mounted on there? How about forward mounting locations looking aft?
Also, do the gopro provided adhesive mounting points hold up, or would folks recommend other attachment methods.
Thanks in advance.
Dave
I attach the gopro on the tiller as close to the rudder as possible with a threaded bike mount that is an additional purchase. The mounting position up high that you are referring to is on the back of the boom. From my experience the sticky mounts should not be trusted
We mount on the end of the boom, between the "triangle" formed by the out haul. We use the GoPro sticky mounts. I once "hooked" the end of the boom on a powerboat fender getting out of the dock... The sticky mount held, while the plastic clip is what failed... Actually, I guess u could say that it was the skipper that "failed". The tether did not fail.
Also used a strap mount on the mast, looking back... Work well.
-Jimbo
Dave, my preferred mount is the chest harness that they sell. Having it on your body allows you to turn it on and off. The elastic allows you to aim at fellow crew members and nearby boats. All of which make for more interesting videos. And less editing. These are tricks I learned when a pro photographer came sailing with me. He made a gray, rainy 10 knit day look exciting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB5LGslCMe8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
For getting people excited, these videos should generally be like pop songs, punchy and 2-3 minutes! Some sort of story line that people can follow helps too.
IMHO, Jimbo & kMag are the reigning kings of Viper video, but Jim's a TV guy, so I think he has a built in advantage!
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Initially I slung mine under the end of the boom using the helmet strap mount. Nice angles but not easy to get to to turn it on and off. Now I have an old (and fat) tiller extension screwed vertically into the outboard bracket that holds the camera. Easy to get to, stays out of the water (mostly) and gives a nice view. The camera is held on with a bike frame clamp that also fits standard pulpits for when I switch boats. I tried a head mount but all I got was endless shots of the ticklers.
Luke.
Have a suction cup mount, and it has been placed on the side of the boom, on the side of the bow looking aft, inside cockpit on aft rail (near the Viper logo). I usually tie a short length on so that if it comes undone, it won't float away. Also have the chesty and the head mount. With the head mount just have to tell the person (usually my son) to "look around" and stare at things, so that the video doesn't come out all jerky and schizophrenic.
Have been toying with the idea of an after mount pole off of the engine mount, but haven't found the time to play with setups. Any photos of what you got Luke?
I had an old boat hook and mounted it to the outboard bracket. You can adjust to please.
Quote from: Somers Kempe on May 26, 2013, 08:38:06 AM
Have been toying with the idea of an after mount pole off of the engine mount, but haven't found the time to play with setups. Any photos of what you got Luke?
I'll get some. Any pictures of Porkchop from last year (NAs and HPDO) will show the basic effect.
Luke.
Thanks everyone for the responses - particularly with photos - those were very helpful. I'm going to try a few of the suggestions - will post a video or two once I've found the right combo (and the right scenes).
Dave
You can make a decent aft mount for about 20 bucks and a trip to home depot.
Grab a 1/2" piece of galvanized electrical conduit - while your' at the store bend (so you don't have to buy the bending tool). attach it to a piece of marine ply and bolt to your stern where the motor mount would go.
I did this one with a glass pad.
Sweet videos but dangerous if someone takes your stern too close I suppose. There are a bunch of video's made using these things - I whipped out a half dozen one afternoon and handed them out. One here - (someone tell monkey to face forward when he tacks please)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REwUXlmQaUw
and then just another epic oops video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0GafFgVPH4 DEW, video credit to Juan M
Quote from: Luke Porter on May 27, 2013, 06:57:28 AM
Quote from: Somers Kempe on May 26, 2013, 08:38:06 AM
Have been toying with the idea of an after mount pole off of the engine mount, but haven't found the time to play with setups. Any photos of what you got Luke?
I'll get some. Any pictures of Porkchop from last year (NAs and HPDO) will show the basic effect.
Here we go, I knew I forgot to do something last night. I added the white delrin to thicken the engine mount so my engine would grab properly. The post fitted neatly in the corner, close to centerline so I made a little piece to attach the post to the mount with some crews that also stops it from rotating and voila. It's easy to remove for storage too. Redneck engineering comes through again.
Luke.
Here is a quick video from Detroit Leukemia Cup Regatta of Black Sheep #29.
Not much wind but a really good time anyhow.
http://youtu.be/KdFaaNNsQA0
New video with 'FNG' in Long Beach..... this is what you have to look forward to at LBRW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGGclL_SFs
Another Viper video in Bermuda. :)
Great fun smokin through J105's!
http://youtu.be/qCV2W8km--w
Team BITUSA at Cal Race Week 2013 - not your typical marina del rey breeze...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB_go-2zhio
Check out this for something different:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mELAQkL8i-8&feature=player_embedded
Dave is going to have something to say about the floating tack on the spinnaker.
I'm sure there is going to be debate on the mainsail sheeting system.
Jeff will want it weighed.
Timbo will want to have something to say about how the crew should look.
BUT, this is some pretty cool modeling.
Thank you for posting all the set ups you guys have. I don't need to go engineering my aft mount now all on my own.
The videos are great too, keep 'em comin.
Can't remember if we shared this one from HPDO 2013 - Collection of on board footage from Black Sheep Viper #29 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzhZpAo5ICQ&feature=share&list=TL2KCxAKRoTA3oVsbapI5CdYdo9t57NNb9
Very cool.
Yachting in Detroit May 30, 2014 - June 1, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ePhnUubsmw
2 more from this season in Bermuda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMzbK8BPBIg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFFQkghG6fY
Nice!.... trying to tempt us to come to Bermuda for the NA's :-)
John - is it working? :)
Bermuda is a hell of a long way from Vancouver, BC but..... :-)
Off Freo for the Musto Regatta Fremantle. Over 200 dinghies in 17 different classes.
6 boats in the sports boat fleet including four Vipers.
http://youtu.be/hON4fVjMsV8
Another Viper 640 video from the Bermuda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p1AnmpCuzU
We held our first one-design regatta this past weekend at the Bermuda Keelboat Nationals now that we have 3 boats on the island which is the minimum number of boats for one design racing in a Bermuda fleet.
We joined the J105, IOD, and Etchell fleets in the Great Sound (future race track of the Americas Cup) in a solid 14-22 SW breeze, clear sunny skies, air temp in the mid 70's and the sea temp the same. The forecast was calling for a weak front to pass in the afternoon and the breeze to clock right to the NW.
In the first race all boats got off the start line clean and the newest boat to the local fleet, #156 racing four up, lead at the top mark in the 2 lap race. They were overtaken by #125 on the first run and couldn't make a pass after that. #73 brought the fleet home.
The second race was a 3 lap affair and the racing was close even though #73 was over the start early and had to go back. Lots of grins on the downwind legs in the flat warm water conditions. #125 again won the race with another come from behind at the first leeward mark rounding.
The third race the course was lengthened but was again a 2 lap setup. The dark cloud of the approaching front was on the horizon and boats were protecting right on the first beat. #73 dug in hard to the right and had a country mile lead by the top mark as the breeze clocked right. #125 rounded second and #156 brought up the rear. The run was one gybe, as the breeze continued right but had dropped in velocity ironically ahead of the front. #73 had a messy leeward mark rounding allowing #125 to snatch the lead, and #73 was neck and neck with #156 on the next beat to windward as the rain approached and the breeze picked up again.
Downwind was Viper heaven, although very wet as the front arrived. #73 had an issue with the hoist, and #156 chased down #125 and passed them when the halyard cover on #125 snapped. Quickly jury rigging the halyard #125 chased #156 all the way to the finish and stole the win back right at the end.
Unfortunately following the race #156 went in with suspected keelcase issue, while #125 stripped the rest of their spinnaker halyard to see if flying the kite with only the core would work. After the RC had set up a new course the remaining two boats called racing for the day and headed back into Hamilton Harbour with kites flying. A nasty 38 knot puff rolled through the Great Sound at this time, tuning the water white and #73's mast to splinters when the spreader assembly exploded. #125 also came to the conclusion that the spinnaker halyard will not hold in the cleat without the covering!
Needless to say everyone ended up back at the dock in good spirits, drinks were raised in celebration of a successful, fun, and competitive day on the water. Repairs commence so we can get back out soon!
Here's a little humble pie from the Wild Hogs for the holidays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL0kSeKuWGI