Gybing

Started by Matt Rowlinson, May 02, 2011, 06:36:17 PM

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Peter Beardsley

It's something like this: http://www.blur.se/2010/01/15/antligen-fredag-128/ (first 10 seconds), but don't let that stop Brad from posting video -- would love to see what he has. 
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Matt Sole

What Brad is getting at is that in the light you take the jib down to help fill the kite. If you try this manoeuvre without the jib, the spin will blow right through the fore triangle.

One thing I learnt a little differently about the skiff gybe is to pull the sheet tightish on the soon to be old side, release as you get to the bottom of the gybe, pull like a bastard on the new sheet and it will pop into shape on the new gybe. There is no load on the new sheet just pulling in excess generally until the kite snaps full.
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Justin Scott

If planing, the blow through is by far the fastest gybe.

We tried blow through in medium/light this weekend and it works good in those conditions as well. Its going to become the default gybe (use in most conditions) in the class.
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Charlie Visser

In what conditions is the blow trough gybe not the default?
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Matt Sole

In the light conditions. It is generally accepted that in the light, the jib comes down to sail down wind. You can't do the skiff style gybe with out a jib or it will blow through inside the fore triangle.
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Ben Jacobsen

#20
this is it, but it's kinda hard to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlNIe1lkDXg&feature=related

it's funny, the SB3 actually has a great video about the boat and how to rig/sail it.  I had one ~4 years ago before they imported them.  It had a demo on how to do this, but I can't find it on youtube...  It doesn't sound like it'd work, and w/o a jib it DOES NOT, but with a jib it's crazy how well it works.

here's another at 0:55 ish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZyS0GkCy-E&feature=related
and another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu0snjSuE_w

Jay Harrell

One difference for the boats in those videos - their spinnakers have very little overlap with the jib compared to the Viper.  You get a bit more drag around the forestay on the V, but it still works about the same.

Drew Harper

Went out this weekend to teach our new third (venomiss) skiffy gybes. It was a bit light to nail these as the boat was barely planing. Went out under the gate to practice but it was puffing to 30 and just not the best place to practice this. Crashed wildly at the south tower demon and well, that was it. white sailed home as we doused the kite AFU'd

Here's the light stuff video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdnY3HqvmG8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Justin Scott

I dont think Dan should have moved this to the public forums.

This is a "members only" technique.
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Matt Sole

Kind of bummed this is becoming common knowledge, used to able to take a boat or two downwind by gybing quicker.
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Drew Harper

Nicest thing is that if you do it at the right point, you just throw a wall of f'd up air downwind of you ....lol
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Dan Tucker

Quote from: Justin Scott on June 01, 2011, 05:40:03 PM
I dont think Dan should have moved this to the public forums.

This is a "members only" technique.
Share the love! What happened to helping the newbies and back-o-the-packers learn?  :-P
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Jay Harrell

Quote from: Dan Tucker on June 02, 2011, 11:30:33 AM
Quote from: Justin Scott on June 01, 2011, 05:40:03 PM
I dont think Dan should have moved this to the public forums.

This is a "members only" technique.
Share the love! What happened to helping the newbies and back-o-the-packers learn?  :-P

Surely Justin meant to put a smiley face on his comments....  Right justin, just being a bit sarcastic, right?  :-)

Matt Sole

You know what, when you cock up and you are back 'o' pack, you need a little sumthin to get out of back 'o' pack.
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Justin Scott

Quote from: Dan Tucker on June 02, 2011, 11:30:33 AM
Quote from: Justin Scott on June 01, 2011, 05:40:03 PM
I dont think Dan should have moved this to the public forums.

This is a "members only" technique.
Share the love! What happened to helping the newbies and back-o-the-packers learn?  :-P

Absolutely!  As long as they pay their $40 and join the class association.

and yes,if there was a smiley face function on our forum, it would be there.
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