Viper 640 PHRF

Started by Jason Hyerstay, March 13, 2017, 09:00:01 PM

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Jason Hyerstay

In 2016, I created a sportboat rating matrix comparing popular sportboats vs the J/70:

http://lcyc.info/files/PHRF%20Sportboat%20Matrix.pdf

I hope this is a useful reference. Our local rating is now PHRF 105.

Cheers,

Jason
Jason Hyerstay - Streetwise - Viper 640 #195 - Lake Champlain Yacht Club, Shelburne, Vermont, USA, https://lcyc.info

Lee Eikel

Jason, GYA PHRF for the Viper is 99 not 105.  Just FYI

Jason Hyerstay

I had it at 102 from the 2016 PHRF book, but I updated it and the boat count, and the VX One rating.

Thanks
Jason Hyerstay - Streetwise - Viper 640 #195 - Lake Champlain Yacht Club, Shelburne, Vermont, USA, https://lcyc.info

Dave Dougall

Jason....What do you have for VX1?

Jason Hyerstay

It's all in the link at the top!

Cheers
Jason Hyerstay - Streetwise - Viper 640 #195 - Lake Champlain Yacht Club, Shelburne, Vermont, USA, https://lcyc.info

Lee Shuckerow

Detroit viper rating is 102
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Jason Hyerstay

I put that in, but I can't find any record in the US Sailing book or the DRYA site.
Jason Hyerstay - Streetwise - Viper 640 #195 - Lake Champlain Yacht Club, Shelburne, Vermont, USA, https://lcyc.info

Nick Ward

That is the number, I need to forward my valid list to US Sailing this year.
Proper Villain #165

Jason Hyerstay

I did a lot more updating, and checked the ratings and numbers with every region. The link is the same, but I will repost it.

http://lcyc.info/files/PHRF%20Sportboat%20Matrix.pdf

I still have questions about South Texas (CCMORF), Monterey Bay.

For Lake Ontario, I can't find a list to verify the local ratings or boat counts. They do have a list, but it excludes boat models! If anyone can help with LO, I would really appreciate it.
Jason Hyerstay - Streetwise - Viper 640 #195 - Lake Champlain Yacht Club, Shelburne, Vermont, USA, https://lcyc.info

Tom Miller

Jason, there are 5 boats that I can find registered with PHRF-LO and a few different ratings based on sail measurements.  Ratings are 2@106, 1@107, and 2@108; numbers are only valid with outboard motor carried on board (12 second hit if we don't have a motor)

Jason Hyerstay

#10
Thank you. I ended up looking at each and every current cert, which was an exercise in repetition. I also made contact with an admin, who gave me a file of base ratings. Unfortunately PHRF LO is very strange in the handling of ODR boats that the base rating is quite different from the adjusted rating for each boat.

Would you be able to tell me the ASP and boat counts for each of the other ODR boats on my list?

PS, maybe some of those Viper owners should check their spin measurements and all pick one standard number to get the same rating.

EDIT:

I got a another reply from the admin, but I couldn't see the expired certs, but I did get ASPs. I had to guess on which model might be which, but I think I got it:

With a little deduction it looks like:

#   Model          FS   ASP
8   Melges 24   075   087
7   Viper 640    087   107*
1   VX One       096   107
1   Melges 20   117   129
7   J/70           096   111
Jason Hyerstay - Streetwise - Viper 640 #195 - Lake Champlain Yacht Club, Shelburne, Vermont, USA, https://lcyc.info

Henry Amthor

Can we sail in PHRF Lake Erie? ie: Life line waver if we use PFD's full time?

Lee Shuckerow

Quote from: Henry Amthor on May 19, 2017, 09:35:04 AM
Can we sail in PHRF Lake Erie? ie: Life line waver if we use PFD's full time?
Henry. You have lifelines. They are under the gunwhale. No one has had an issue with phrf in that regard
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Henry Amthor

Good point ..Never looked under there..